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#123362 Request test / calibration model using Simplify 3D settings (or gcode) for Nylon

Hello fellow Leapfrog Users,


In the absence of finding any useful information regarding successfully printing in Nylon, I have raised this ticket.


I wonder what others thoughts and experiences have been?  As the little have had from users with years of experience and also working with the Taulmans the Nylon manufacturer where far from inspiring.


So please provide some further notes it would be good to some how validate if any of the Leapfrog printers are successfully printing in Nylon and especially how.


***** My ticket request below ****

Dear Technical Support Team,


Would you please send me the STL model FFF Profile (this is not on the website) you use to test / calibrate the Creatr HS for printing in Nylon.


Since you clearly advertise the printer as having the capability to print in Nylon and also sell Nylon filament; I would like the exact same: 


1. Models
2. Setting files or gcode.


You used including any other pertinent instruction to achieve a successful print in Nylon as I have not yet read of any stories from customers regarding successes printing in Nylon.


I look forward to receiving above requested information and initially a brief reply confirming this will be done.


Kind regards from one of your newest purchasers of a Leapfrog Creatr HS


David

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David,


Did you ever get a response on this?


Jake

Hi Jake, Nice to hear from you. No unfortunately I have not heard anything from Leapfeog. I will try to request an answer but I am not hopeful since there has been no feedback yet. In short I developed my own settings to get Nylon to work. Not easy given the temps at the upper limit of printers bed capability. As I've tried to push the bed temp and keep it high for Nylon the printer struggles in aided. By unaided I mean that without a enclosure around the printer to keep the temp in and around the build area up high and stable it takes an extremely long time to reach the higher bed temps. Sometimes as much 20-30 mins. I am curious what you are going to print in Nylon? I have not printed in Nylon for about 4-5 months. So I am a bit out of practise. Look forward to hearing a bit more of your story. Regards David

Hi David,


What temp do you use for the bed?  I found these settings on another forum:


240-260C Extrusion Temperature (each type of filament is slightly different. Follow manufacturer's recommendations)
70-80C Bed Temperature with PVA based glue
Speed: 30-60mm/s
.20mm-.4mm layer heights


I work for a company that makes connectors and we want to make prototype collets that are semi-functional.  Check us out at www.fastestinc.com


Jake

Hi Jake,


I use sticky labels on my bed and not tape so changes the behaviour depending on how your printer is setup. I typically aimed for 80 deg C though I found to go higher even though it should it struggled to get up above 85 deg as I don't have an enclosed environment / cover though some people just use a square plastic container to keep more heat in. I intend to build a hood to cover the top of the printer and put a sliding panel on the front of the printer to make it fully enclosed, the plus side is it will help with ABS also.


If you like I can also try printing something for you as a comparison though I don't know what your company's policy is for sending things outside without an NDA(Non Disclosure Agreement for company IP) in place.


Hope this has been of some help?


Kind regards,


David.

Hi David,


I have an Xeed so it's somewhat enclosed.  I ran a few parts with the bed at 75 deg C, the nozzle at 240, and I used a glue stick instead of the sticky label.  It worked really well except that the parts were a little stringy.  I'm going to try to run it at 230 instead to see if that helps.


I liked the glue stick more than the labels and it was much easier to clean up.  The glue is water soluble so I just used a wet rag to clean it up!


Thanks for all the help,


Jake

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User Manual

Quick Start Guide

Installation clips
The following 3 clips will guide you through the installation process of your Creatr. By following these, you will be printing within 30 minutes. First start with unpacking the printer. Clickhere to see how you correctly pick up the printer

Part 1 of 3: Unpacking your Creatr

In this clip, you will be guided through the unpacking of a brand new Creatr. The unboxing along with the location of tie wraps which need to be removed are shown, as well as the process of a connecting the cables to the printer and computer.

Part 2 of 3: Software and configuration

In this clip, we will show you how to install the required software. The first step is to download and install the Arduino software to make it possible for your computer to connect with the printer. The next step is to download and install the Repetier Host Leapfrog software or that controlls your 3D printer. We have tried to make this as simple as possible and also provided direct downloading links per operating system.

SIMPLIFY 3D SOFTWARE
If you are using the new Simplify 3D software you can follow all the steps except for the Repetier-Host Leapfrog installation and using explanation. Simply download the software via the purchase link and before first use a pop-up will appear showing you the Simplify 3D Quick start guide. You can also download the Quick start guide or access it from the software via help –> Quick start guide. The quick start guide will briefly explain the functions of the software so that you can start your first print.

Please select you operating system and follow the descriptions in the movie.

Operating systemWindows

The first step is to download and install the Arduino software to make it possible for your computer to connect with the printer. The next step is to download and install the newest version of the Repetier Host Leapfrog software as shown in the clip. This software allows you to convert your 3D software file [STL for example] to a printable file [G-Code] and allows you to control your printer. The Repetier Host Leapfrog software contains standard Creatr Print Profiles. Just select the extruder, the filament material as well as the color and Repetier will automatically select the ideal print temperature providing you the best print quality possible. There is also a Leapfrog support button implemented in the software. A Mac version will be available soon.

If you have followed the installation procedure, but you can’t control your Leapfrog Creatr and the “6 commands waiting” message in Repetier-Host Leapfrog won’t disappear, you have to install the 2.8.28 drivers. Please see Solution can’t connect 6 commands waiting in Repetier-Host Leapfrog how to do so.

For a more thorough description of Slic3s settings please check this guide!

Windows 8
To install the Arduino drivers on a computer with Windows 8 follow these steps after downloading the Arduino software.

- Save unsaved work and write the instructions down
[your computer will reboot into startup options screen]
- Press the Windows Key and the ‘R’ key simultaneously
- Copy the command inside the brackets
–>[ shutdown.exe /r /o /f /t 00 ] – Select ‘Troubleshoot’
- Select ‘Advanced options’
- Select ‘Startup Settings’
- Select ‘Disable Driver Signature Enforcement’
- Install driver as usual via device manager


Mac

In this clip, we will explain you how you can generate a STL file using Sketchup. We show you what to download and how to export your design in STL.

Part 3 of 3: Making your first print!

In this final clip, the process of creating your first print will be explained. This starts with removing the callibration print that is already on the print bed. How to insert the filament and operate the Repetier Host Leapfrog software is also shown, which should culminate in your first 3D Print on the Creatr!

Google sketchupHow to export STL files from Sketchup

The first step is to download and install the Arduino software to make it possible for your computer to connect with the printer. You will then need to in stall this driver for OSX to recognize the hardware.

The next step is to download the Repetier software as shown in the clip. This software allows you to convert your 3D software file [STL for example] to a printable file [G-Code] and allows you to control your printer. We have developed standard print profiles for the Creatr. Please follow the instructions below to install the print profiles for Mac [not yet included in the video]:

- Download This file
- Go to your Home Folder on Mac and select “Go to Folder” from the Go Menu en type “Library/Application Support/Slic3r/” - Unzip the file you just downloaded and dump the contents in the Slic3r folder, it will replace your existing settings. If you want to keep your current settings as well, take the contents from each folder and put this in the same folder in the Home/Libaray/App../Slic3r folder.

Download instructions by Deepak Dinesh Mehta For a more thorough description of Slic3s settings please check this guide!

Troubleshooting Trees

Filament Guide

ABS
  • Extrude at ~ 225o C.
  • Requires heated bed.
  • Works reasonably well without cooling.
  • Adheres best to polyimide tape.
  • Filament tolerances are usually tighter.
  • Prone to cracking, delamination, and wraping.
  • More flexible.
  • Can be bonded using adhesives or solvents(Acetone or MEK).
  • Fumes are unpleasent in enclosed areas.
  • Oil Based.
PLA
  • Extrude at ~ 180-225o C.
  • Benefits from heated bed.
  • Benefits greatly from cooling while printing.
  • Adheres well to a variety of surfaces.
  • Finer feature detail possible on a well calibrated machine.
  • Prone to curling of corners and overhangs.
  • More brittle.
  • Can be bonded using adhesives.
  • More pleasant smell when extruded.
  • Plant Based.

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